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Welcome to the, my natural wellness podcast with Dr. Michelle, TRIZ giving you your holistic healthcare perspective.

Hello, and welcome back. My name is Dr. Michelle TRIZ and welcome to the podcast on a holistic perspective on health. I'm joined by my really great friend raw king, who is a certified clinical hypnotherapist, and I'm super excited to have him here on, on this episode so that all of you out there can really learn about what he does, how it's helpful for you and how you, how it can be part of your holistic health. So Rob, welcome to the podcast. Oh,

Thank you for inviting me, Michelle. And I'm excited to, uh, have this conversation in front of a lot of people also. Uh, you and I have had many conversations that I'm sure your audience would be excited about and interested in. Yes,

We can talk. We, we have talked and talked and talked until we're finally like, okay, we <laugh>, we gotta go back to a work. There's there's other things that we gotta, we gotta get done. So you're a certified clinical hypnotherapist. How did you, how did you get into this,

Uh, to make a long story short? I had realized that people have an issue communicating with each other, and I wanted to find a way to help people communicate in doing the at, I found a thing called neurolinguistic programming or NLP, which is a Subec of hypnosis. And I said, if I'm gonna learn this, I might as well go get the entire portion of education, uh, leading to the clinical hypnotherapy, which allows me to, um, get referrals from physicians and work on specific diagnosed conditions.

Amazing. So there's, I find that I, uh, when I bring up, uh, hypnosis or hypnotherapy people have this, um, idea because of Las Vegas shows and, and comedy shows about what it is. And I, I have found people that are actually afraid, like you're gonna, you're gonna go in there and you you're gonna do something to my brain. Will you, you know, in my, when I got into this, um, you know, a lot of people said, you know, that's, you know, that's witchcraft what you're doing with herbs and, and that's not real. And, and so I had to kind of fight against a lot of preconceived notions. Um, why don't you tell us a little bit about, about that and, and those preconceived notions that people have and, and what it is that you really do to help people?

You know, I see those preconceived notions as actually hypnosis on its own. It's them, um, creating a habit or perspective about something and, and having a filter before actually, um, really getting the full amount of information. I do a pre stage shows and, and hypnotists in that scenario, I hesitate because I, it does sometimes limit people's exposure to hypnosis and think it's only a entertainment. Um, I, if you look at some of those state shows and what, what people are, are willing to believe within themselves, when they're in that trance, uh, consider what you could do with that a positive manner, you know, we could change. And we do, I do daily change people's habits from things that limit them and stop them from an enjoyable life to having a, a free, happy, be fulfilling life of, um, reaching their potentials, you know, or SEL them to people realize how to really grasp on their, onto their potentials. That's easy for some people to say, <laugh> SEL them to people grasp onto those because they limit the limit themselves with fear. And yes. Um, I, I work hard to help people manage real relationships amongst the things in their life and their fears.

I mean, we have all these dreams, you know, you grow up and you're a kid and you, you know, got these wonderful ideas. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be a singer. I'm gonna be a, a dancer. I'm gonna be, you know, I'm gonna do all these things. What holds, what holds you back is fear a hundred percent from completing the things. You know, if you ask people that are really successful, if you ask them, they, they would say that they were afraid, but they did it anyway, right. That they were able to have those, you know, we talk about it. We've talked about before those circuits in the brain, where they were able to push through, um, what from, um, when you, when you're sitting with people, how are you, how are you helping them to kind of get past those fears when you're talking with them and through the, the hypnosis? Well, within

My perspective and the model of the world that I live in, and everybody can take it or leave it, it's up to them. I see a lot of, uh, these things driven by beliefs. So we have a belief about ourselves. We have a thought that belief in inspires an emotion within us that creates an action. So if I can find the belief that limits the per person, then we can work through that belief and then give them the truth about themselves. So they can have a stronger self confidence and accomplish really what they're meant to accomplish. I mean, we're put here to do a lot of things, giving gifts and sell them to people who utilize those gifts because of abnormal belief systems. I see most of those starting before the age of 10 years old, um, we are learning the world and we get a, um, inappropriate message of sorts. So if we don't manage that message throughout our life, then we have, uh, a child of less than 10 running those portions of our life. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So, uh, you know, I work specifically with the limiting belief and to give them the truth about themselves or help them realize the truth about themselves. I should say

You in my practice, and we've talked about this a lot. There are people, um, who come to me who want to make change. You know, I want to eat healthier. I don't wanna have diabetes. I don't wanna have high blood pressure. I know that nutrition is so it's not like I have to overcome the, um, the fact of like healthy food, healthy lifestyle equals a healthier person. They already know that they're, they're limiting belief, whether it comes to weight, loss or health, they're limiting beliefs are vary by the person. Um, but it's, but a lot of them are, I can't give up X, I won't give up this. Or I, I, I, my mom used to make this for me. And even though my mom had X disease and my grandmother had X disease and I have X disease and we continue to eat in this way, I can't give it up. I mean, what do you, when in your sessions with people, um, how quickly are you able to see them kind of overcoming these beliefs? Does it take, does it take weeks? Does it take months? Is

It no, no. That's up to the individual and I don't see clients for any single purpose for more than success. Um, most, most of my clients within an hour and a half to two hours in, um, three sessions have had massive changes. I come down to the relationship with food, you know, this story about myself. Um, I had a, an abnormal relationship with French fries. Um, I attached that, that a specific feeling to French fries as a child, I had a, a lot of, uh, harsh, um, like many people do E experiences. Mine wasn't so much abuse. It was neglect. So I would go to my neighbor's house when my family was not around. Um, and they would serve me French fries. So I had supported French fries with a feeling of support and that feeling of needing something and somebody and being supported. So when I felt possibly, maybe that I wasn't enough in life or that I needed something there, I would turn to French fries. And that turned into a pretty bad habit for me. It didn't give me extra weight from the ex from people's perspective, outside of myself, nobody would've had any, any, any inclination. However, I was eating five pounds of French fries a week. Wow. Five pounds

A week. Wow. I heard this story before, but every time you say five pounds, I'm always like five pounds of

French fries. I, I would tell, I would joke and tell people as a vegetarian, I living up, I living on French fries. <laugh> um, so, you know, the reality is this was an abnormal relationship with food and it had nothing to do with my adulthood. I knew it wasn't appropriate, but I still cont continued to turn back to it. I fortunately didn't at the moment find any health concerns from that, but the long term effects, there has to be some sort of long term effect on my body. So while I did not play Russian roulette and spin the gun and point the gun at my head, mm-hmm, <affirmative> in the literal term, in the figurative term I did and pulled the trigger, but the bullet is just so much slower mm-hmm <affirmative>. So I don't quite see the effects of it until later in life. People have the same issues with smoking, for example, right. The smoke a cigarette is no big deal right now, but 50 years later, when that bullet finally it's from pulling that trigger, mm-hmm, <affirmative> now we're feeling the effects and feeling like we maybe should have managed it at an earlier stage.

Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, I talk a lot about with my, in my practice, my patients about inflammation, how inflammation is a killer 55 million people die every year from inflamm from inflammatory conditions. And that's everything, all diseases caused by some sort of inflammatory response. And so, yeah, you're right. Short term. It's like, you're right. It's like this gun that goes off very, very, very slowly. So by the time it, it hits you. You're like, wait, what? I didn't hear the shot because it started so many years ago. So I, I love that analogy of, of, of the, of the slow progress to a bullet, because I'm, I constantly trying to kind of bang my drum on the message. Inflammation will kill you. Inflammation will kill you people inflamm I understand I'm like, well, inflammation can be inflammation in your cardiac system, in your veins, in your brain and your, on any one of your organ systems, inflammation is killing you. <laugh> in some way or another,

Well, this is a good lead into hypnosis actually, because our learning mind learns much better when we're able to attach and approach metaphor, right? When somebody can cease the same scenario in a different light. Now, all of a sudden we might be able to apply the same mental processes that allow us to overcome the other scenario and actually, um, where we feel like we're living in a shortcoming, uh, world where I'm not performing the way I'd like to. Now, all of a sudden, I, I realize I already have those processes and I use 'em somewhere else. Why don't I just apply it in this scenario? Um, when we're able to start, uh, offering people those, uh, metaphors that's really where realizations can happen. Um, right. Even short of a, of a classical hypnotic trance scenario. Uh, we can have realizations you and go in and out of trance really all day. So right now, if people are really engaged in listening to our conversation, they're in a trance. Hopefully they're not too much in a trance where they're not paying attention to the traffic around them, but they can still be trans out. Talk to

Talk, talk a little bit more about what a trans state is, because I, I feel like there's some sort of, uh, when you talk about fear of people who are fear of, you know, clinical hypno therapists, they don't understand that you are hypnotized all day long you're in, in and out of trans state. So can you kind of explain that a little bit more so people can

Understand, so fear itself is kind of a trans state. Now, all of a sudden, let's just say, you really don't like spiders and you're in a room and you see a spider come at you now you've dropped everything out. The, the conversation that was going on around you is no longer part of the conversation. The only thing that you can concentrate on is that spider that's as big as a dollar bill walking towards you. So now all of a sudden, the spider's not really as big as a dollar bill, but our imagination is created intense experience in which everything else is gone. The only thing that I'm really concerned with is that spider and it's coming at me, it's gonna eat me, which isn't reality. So we've worked ourselves into this place and a trance. So how could that be a trance? The issue is what is really a trance.

We come to a definitive, um, verbal definitive challenge here. Uh, we use words as symbols. So if you've ever in your life, been in a state in which you were really comfortable and good at something, maybe it was work. Maybe it was a sporting event. If you see college kids standing at a foul line, in a basketball game, dribbling the ball and 20,000 people screaming and people behind the backboard with signs about their mother mm-hmm <affirmative>. And yet this 18 year old kid can calm all of that down and make a basket. If you can't clean up everything in your world and realize that that's a trance, drop everything else out and just actually perform the way your body is built to perform, mm-hmm <affirmative>, then we're missing out on something great. Because those people and those athletes and those people in work, they actively seek that trance state mm-hmm <affirmative>. So when they're there, they're in the most optimal place to do exactly what they wanna do, they're finding their flow state for any situation.

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Well, that kind of helps us segue into, you know, we've got holidays are here, new year's resolutions, I've got some new year's resolutions already kind of in mind. And, um, you know, most new year's resolutions, we fail <laugh> we fail at them. Um, and we've talked about this because we, we set a goal, we have something in mind and, um, and then we say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose weight. I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm gonna eat really well. I'm gonna niche. You say, every day, I'm gonna have a smoothie and this is it. This is gonna be the year I'm gonna start it off. Right. I'm gonna go to yoga. And, and then, um, and then, you know, you, you're on the treadmill and your leg hurts and you, you take a few days off and then somebody invites you to dinner and, and drinks, and you have three, you know, you have a little bit more, and then maybe I have that more French fries.

And, and, and, and then, you know, maybe something happens at work either way, three weeks in typically, which is the typical timeline for new year's resolutions or February 1st, most people have dropped off their new year's resolutions because we've got, you know, it's, it's, it's about, you know, what your, what has told you, you can do. And so you're like, oh, you know what? I just really can't do it. And, um, so what, what, what would, you know, what kind of advice do you have for people who have these new year's resolutions? Um, and, and how to really, how can I get it done this year in 2022, I'm gonna get it done. <laugh> I want to do this, whatever it is, lose weight, uh, feel better, exercise more, whatever the new year's resolution is, how do we make that happen? Cause people are always talking about, oh, we just make it a habit, make it a habit. But I, I feel like people fall in and outta habits

All the time and we do absolutely. Um, I would see, I struggle with things like new year's resolutions, because if you wanna change something, why I wait till January 1st? Sure. So, um, the reality is we, the, there's a couple of big scenarios here. We have to really set very specific goals. So we know exactly what we're working for. Um, and timelines are important, but when we do that, sometimes if we fall off this proverbial wagon of good habits, now all of a sudden we feel like a failure. Now this is the specific down point. This is the point in which we've lost everything. You never wanna feel like a FA failure because it allows us to feel, uh, without hope. So, if we can change the word from try to lose weight, to working towards my goal of losing 20 pounds, mm-hmm, <affirmative> now all of a sudden we've taken the fail experience out of it.

I don't not get there. I'm working towards that. I didn't fail. I just, because I had some French fries today didn't mean I failed in my life, right. I'm hoping to live quite a long life so I can work towards being healthier and being more appropriate for myself. So self-talk is a really, really big part of this. And that's a huge part of every day's life, everybody's life, because we beat ourselves up. Constantly. People say things to the themselves that they would never ever say to somebody else. Hmm. And when they do that, they defeat themselves. Now, all of a sudden, I can't do this well, huh. Really? Cuz if somebody else can, so can you, you just haven't found your way yet. And that's the big, um, mental shift in people that really accomplish their goals and the people that have to follow through.

It's not that I failed because I didn't do it. It's that? Well, I haven't quite made it there yet. And Edison has a very, um, famous quote about this and I always screw it up. I say it enough, I should actually know it verbatim, but it goes along the lines of, you know, I didn't fail to make the light bulb a thousand times. I figured out a thousand ways it didn't work. Right. So what if you would've stopped at a hundred or in this case, what happened if we would've stopped after the first week? Because that's where most people stopped their news resolutions mm-hmm <affirmative> um, self-talk is very important, clear, and concise goals are really important. Um, and then I, I live by an 80 20 rule. If you can do the right thing, 80% of the time, the other 20% of the time, you're allowed to have some cheesecake as people go crazy with it. <laugh> and you may disagree with me cuz I know that you don't like dairy products. <laugh>

You know, me and dairy are, are

More. Yeah, I know you and dairy, but you know, I like some cheesecakes. So once in a while I'll have a bite and I I'm appropriate about my intake. Yeah. And,

And some people I find and do that and, and then get right back on eating well. And other other people I work with are like, I failed because they had that

Self right there. Period. I failed, I

Failed and now I should punish myself. So I know that this food doesn't make me feel good. So out. Yeah. I'm gonna do some more as a form of punishment. You'll like this, I have a, a note. You can't probably see it cuz it's backward in the screen. I see. But I have, I have a little note that, and I put it right here and it says, remember to breathe, remember to relax, remember to have gratitude. Remember that. What I love about myself is I love my heart. My kid wrote, Olivia loves you too. At the bottom of this note, I have these notes like all over my house as to like remind myself to have positive. Self-talk when I, you know, I'm having a hard day or something, didn't go my way or what, whatever it is. So I, I feel like positive self-talk is, is, is huge. Um, and then, you know, having the coaches to kinda get you there, um, coaches like what you and I do to really like help you, help reinforce really good habits, things that should be happening. Um, and then helping with that mind connection, people are very disconnected from the mind in the body. Yeah. You, uh, totally different things.

You touched on something kind of important there. If these things aren't helping people get over that if they're not able to manage their goals, if they're not able to look at themselves and be more positive about their self talk. Now we're working into that belief system that we spoke about earlier. They believe maybe that they can't do it, or they're not worthy of having the things that they want they're unlovable. And if this happens, then they could be possibly lovable and all these things could be scary to somebody who's lived all their life with this specific belief system. Hmm. So that's when we get into the next level of actually sitting down and working with an individual's belief and that is, um, very imperative to their relationship around

Food. Wow. That is really <laugh>. It's like really deep, you know, you think like, oh, I do wanna lose weight, but then we, or I do wanna do this to help myself feel better. But then that equals love for myself. And there's fear around that too, because maybe I've spent my whole life being, feeling unloved or, you know, having tough childhood where I was neglected. And so that's my belief. It's not just about, I want that goal. It's about what that goal means, what we get when we have that goal of love or whatever that feeling of love or that feeling of expectation <laugh>

And, and that's where our coaching comes in. So appropriately and people that are having these challenges to be able to work and shift them through their processes. They're individual process is to get the goals that they want. Right.

Right. Well, I, I just, I, I love that. I love that. Um, there's this whole other component, right? When I'm working with people that I can send them to you and say, okay, well I know that you wanna get this done, but I can feel that there is a stumbling block in belief, right? It is you you to, but maybe there's this background belief that, and, uh, and they can send in your way and they can start to see results. They can start to quit smoking or they can, um, have results in losing weight or, or whatever the goal is. Right. They can get there because they've, um, instead of trying to push through and push through and push through, they've just done some, some work on the belief system and changed how they feel and believe. So. I, I, I just love, I love that.

<laugh> I, I, I may be asking you shortly to join me in a Facebook live group that I have about a gastrointestinal chronic issues that I, that I wanna have you answer some

Questions, you know, I'm all about that. I talk about gut health and, and um, so whenever you wanna get on Facebook live, I'd be happy to talk about, about gut health. And, um, I'd loved having you on this has been an, an amazing conversation. How can anytime I'd love to do it again. How, how can people find,

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Not hypnosis? You gotta, that is a very memorable URL. You cannot forget it. Just why? Why not? Why not try it? So why not? What do you got to lose conversation? Exactly. Well, thanks for coming up on the podcast. Thanks to everybody for listening and thanks, man. I will, I will. Uh, we'll talk to you next time. Thank you

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